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Using copyrighted works in Collages, a question for the copyright experts

Post#1 by tim » 17 Nov 2016, 22:36


I want to create collages to try to sell on www.FineArtAmerica.com.
I doubt many people would by them but I want to try anyways.
As an example, If I want to create a collages composed of things that start with M.
I am able to find public domain images of "Mountains", "Moose", "Mouse" (computer mouse).
But others I am unsure about since they're copyrighted, like "Mario", "Mickey Mouse", "MegaMan", "Mother Teresa", "Mars" (the planet), "Mars" (the chocolate bar), "Moon".
Am i able to use these copyrighted works in my collage (for selling)?
The whole idea of a collage is to re-use existing material so I wonder what the law allows. I tried to read about "Fair Use" but it was long and too confusing for my clear understanding.
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Post#2 by tim » 18 Nov 2016, 04:00


I really want to include "Mario", "Megaman", "Mickey Mouse" and "McDonald's" so I emailed them all to ask for permission.
Hoping they let me (Crossing my fingers), stating the fact that the possible sale of my collage does not possibly reduce sales of their trademarked or copyrighted products.
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Post#3 by Espermaschine » 18 Nov 2016, 08:48


Interesting and tricky subject. I dont know the answer but i think you cant use the work of big companies to sell your stuff.
They want full control of their brand.

It reminds me of the Barack Obama image Shephard Fairey used for the Hope campaign:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Ob ... %22_poster

There was legal action involved and Shepard claimed it was fair use. Maybe that article is of help ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

Also there are websites which sell reproductions of imaginary company logos used in science fiction movies (Alien, Bladerunner, etc.) on t-shirts. coffee mugs, etc. I always wondered how that works.
https://www.lastexittonowhere.com/
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Post#4 by RJKD » 18 Nov 2016, 09:28


In England there are plenty of little shops making Tee Shirts, coasters, mugs etc who pay no attention to copyright.
Along with health issues, another reason I finished manual collage making was to stop being a pirate, it lost it's attraction.
One suggestion I can offer is to name individual layers in a manner that will help know what you are relating to. Creating a collage of the size and detail like mine above, I reckon several hundred layers would be involved, and I would undertake it as a fairly long term project (months/years)
Also I create for me, to my own satisfaction, (hence I can't post some work here due to explicit material). I truly love collage work, I find it therapeutic.
It could be an idea to start a collage makers resources bank?
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Post#5 by tim » 18 Nov 2016, 18:01


collage makers resources bank? like collection of copyright free images? On this forum?
Mostly I just search for public domain images.
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Post#6 by tim » 18 Nov 2016, 18:54


Sallyanne on gimpchat.com mentioned
that I can google advanced image search and check "Free to use, share, or modify, even commercially" as the filter for user rights.
Ofnuts on gimpchat.com also mentioned about using it as a component of the whole image instead of just "putting a frame around it and calling it its own".
So i'll apply both these rules in my collages.
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Post#7 by runSPOTrun13 » 27 Nov 2016, 23:13


@admin From what I understand, if you alter the image, then it's no longer copyrighted. If you watch copyrighted material on youtube, you will have noticed the playback is either sped up or slowed down, because that's how they loopholed the copyright...it's no longer the original material. I will usually ask an artist if I can use their material, and rarely get a response (which to me is an affirmative), but if they say no I delete what I've done with it just to be polite. Most logos and iconic images with any alterations would be public domain, or every artist making a fat ronald eating a burger or a nazi Micky Mouse would get sued. I taught myself to use gimp for making video game skins and avatars/banners, which has led me to use allot of copyrighted material (as requested by the people that want the item). Since I've never charged for my work, I don't feel like I'm detracting from or stealing from the artist, I'm simply disseminating their work. I really make stuff as an excuse to get better at using GIMP!
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